Talk:Warrior - Revision history

Skace at 09:53, 28 May 2008

2008-05-28T09:53:49Z

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			==Discussion==
	I modified the style of the class page to a more user friendly version. Moving the in-game help text to the bottom since it is pretty ugly to read on a webpage and adding the skill list to avoid having to use the category pages which don't lend themselves to being easy to navigate. Plus the skill category pages themselves seem to be misused by being used for both article listings and the skills themselves, redundant. Thoughts?		I modified the style of the class page to a more user friendly version. Moving the in-game help text to the bottom since it is pretty ugly to read on a webpage and adding the skill list to avoid having to use the category pages which don't lend themselves to being easy to navigate. Plus the skill category pages themselves seem to be misused by being used for both article listings and the skills themselves, redundant. Thoughts?

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	* I'm too sleepy to process this at the moment, can you send me a tell when you see me on the MUD? :) I don't think there should be a recaptcha on your account, let's also talk about that on the MUD. --[[User:Poromenos\|Poromenos]] 19:10, 24 May 2008 (CDT)		* I'm too sleepy to process this at the moment, can you send me a tell when you see me on the MUD? :) I don't think there should be a recaptcha on your account, let's also talk about that on the MUD. --[[User:Poromenos\|Poromenos]] 19:10, 24 May 2008 (CDT)


			==Alternate Quote Code==
			{\| style="font-size:90%;"
			\|align="center"\|"Defend yourself when you cannot defeat the enemy,
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			\|align="center"\|and attack the enemy when you can.
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			\|align="center"\|One defends when his strength is inadequate;
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			\|align="center"\|he attacks when it is abundant.
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			\|align="center"\|Those who are skilled in defense hide themselves
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			\|align="center"\|as under the nine-fold earth;
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			\|align="center"\|Those in attack flash forth
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			\|align="center"\|as from above the nine-fold heavens.
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			\|align="center"\|Thus, they are capable both of protecting themselves
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			\|align="center"\|And of gaining a complete victory."
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			\|align="right"\|Sun Tzu, The Art of War
			\|}

Poromenos at 00:10, 25 May 2008

2008-05-25T00:10:41Z

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	Can you please remove recaptcha from my account? :) - [[User:Skace\|Skace]]		Can you please remove recaptcha from my account? :) - [[User:Skace\|Skace]]

			* I'm too sleepy to process this at the moment, can you send me a tell when you see me on the MUD? :) I don't think there should be a recaptcha on your account, let's also talk about that on the MUD. --[[User:Poromenos\|Poromenos]] 19:10, 24 May 2008 (CDT)

Skace at 15:22, 24 May 2008

2008-05-24T15:22:25Z

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	* I like the table style, and we can get the css installed, but what's wrong with putting the skill list in category pages? They're listed in the categories so you can see the level of each skill... --[[User:Poromenos\|Poromenos]] 21:19, 23 May 2008 (CDT)		* I like the table style, and we can get the css installed, but what's wrong with putting the skill list in category pages? They're listed in the categories so you can see the level of each skill... --[[User:Poromenos\|Poromenos]] 21:19, 23 May 2008 (CDT)

	** Yea, you can click the level, but the list is about 4-5 times longer due to dead space. I guess the question becomes why would someone be using this list? If they are actually playing a warrior in game they can just slist 15 15 or slist a specific skill or type help on something they learned. So I'm guessing the point on having the skill list is more for someone who isn't playing a warrior but might like to, this person is in general not going to have a specific level in mind but more want an overview out of all skills the warrior gets. Such as a new player trying to decide which class. In this case, the huge table of contents and ton of dead space is just going to make it more annoying to browse through the skills of multiple classes. By using the table, I tried to keep it as compact as the in-game menu. If you contain the table of skills within the class, then you could erase the category page and use it for an actual categorical listing of skill articles that are based on warrior, in case someone just wants to view an alphabetical listing.		Yea, you can click the level, but the list is about 4-5 times longer due to dead space. I guess the question becomes why would someone be using this list? If they are actually playing a warrior in game they can just slist 15 15 or slist a specific skill or type help on something they learned. So I'm guessing the point on having the skill list is more for someone who isn't playing a warrior but might like to, this person is in general not going to have a specific level in mind but more want an overview out of all skills the warrior gets. Such as a new player trying to decide which class. In this case, the huge table of contents and ton of dead space is just going to make it more annoying to browse through the skills of multiple classes. By using the table, I tried to keep it as compact as the in-game menu. If you contain the table of skills within the class, then you could erase the category page and use it for an actual categorical listing of skill articles that are based on warrior, in case someone just wants to view an alphabetical listing.

	Also, right now you don't get the category listing at all if you do a search on warrior skills, you don't get the warrior page either, but I'd like to correct that so that you get it as a first hit. And lastly, the main page should probably have a listing of the classes that goes direct to each classes page.		Also, right now you don't get the category listing at all if you do a search on warrior skills, you don't get the warrior page either, but I'd like to correct that so that you get it as a first hit. And lastly, the main page should probably have a listing of the classes that goes direct to each classes page.

	Can you please remove recaptcha from my account? :) - [[User:Skace\|Skace]]		Can you please remove recaptcha from my account? :) - [[User:Skace\|Skace]]

Skace at 15:21, 24 May 2008

2008-05-24T15:21:48Z

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	I modified the style of the class page to a more user friendly version. Moving the in-game help text to the bottom since it is pretty ugly to read on a webpage and adding the skill list to avoid having to use the category pages which don't lend themselves to being easy to navigate. Plus the skill category pages themselves seem to be misused by being used for both article listings and the skills themselves, redundant. Thoughts?		I modified the style of the class page to a more user friendly version. Moving the in-game help text to the bottom since it is pretty ugly to read on a webpage and adding the skill list to avoid having to use the category pages which don't lend themselves to being easy to navigate. Plus the skill category pages themselves seem to be misused by being used for both article listings and the skills themselves, redundant. Thoughts?

	If this wiki had the wikipedia common.css, I would make the table differently and probably have it look a bit better. I'd like some feedback before I modify any other class pages.		If this wiki had the wikipedia common.css, I would make the table differently and probably have it look a bit better. I'd like some feedback before I modify any other class pages. - [[User:Skace\|Skace]] 5/23/2008

	[[~~Skace~~]] 5/23/2008		* I like the table style, and we can get the css installed, but what's wrong with putting the skill list in category pages? They're listed in the categories so you can see the level of each skill... --[[User:Poromenos\|Poromenos]] 21:19, 23 May 2008 (CDT)

			** Yea, you can click the level, but the list is about 4-5 times longer due to dead space. I guess the question becomes why would someone be using this list? If they are actually playing a warrior in game they can just slist 15 15 or slist a specific skill or type help on something they learned. So I'm guessing the point on having the skill list is more for someone who isn't playing a warrior but might like to, this person is in general not going to have a specific level in mind but more want an overview out of all skills the warrior gets. Such as a new player trying to decide which class. In this case, the huge table of contents and ton of dead space is just going to make it more annoying to browse through the skills of multiple classes. By using the table, I tried to keep it as compact as the in-game menu. If you contain the table of skills within the class, then you could erase the category page and use it for an actual categorical listing of skill articles that are based on warrior, in case someone just wants to view an alphabetical listing.

			Also, right now you don't get the category listing at all if you do a search on warrior skills, you don't get the warrior page either, but I'd like to correct that so that you get it as a first hit. And lastly, the main page should probably have a listing of the classes that goes direct to each classes page.

	* I like the table style, and we can get the css installed, but what's wrong with putting the skill list in category pages? ~~They're listed in the categories so you can see the level of each skill... -~~-[[User:~~Poromenos~~\|~~Poromenos~~]] ~~21:19, 23 May 2008 (CDT)~~		Can you please remove recaptcha from my account? :) - [[User:Skace\|Skace]]

Poromenos at 02:19, 24 May 2008

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	[[Skace]] 5/23/2008		[[Skace]] 5/23/2008

			* I like the table style, and we can get the css installed, but what's wrong with putting the skill list in category pages? They're listed in the categories so you can see the level of each skill... --[[User:Poromenos\|Poromenos]] 21:19, 23 May 2008 (CDT)

Skace at 16:21, 23 May 2008

2008-05-23T16:21:25Z

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		I modified the style of the class page to a more user friendly version. Moving the in-game help text to the bottom since it is pretty ugly to read on a webpage and adding the skill list to avoid having to use the category pages which don't lend themselves to being easy to navigate. Plus the skill category pages themselves seem to be misused by being used for both article listings and the skills themselves, redundant. Thoughts?

		If this wiki had the wikipedia common.css, I would make the table differently and probably have it look a bit better. I'd like some feedback before I modify any other class pages.

		[[Skace]] 5/23/2008

Skace at 16:16, 23 May 2008

2008-05-23T16:16:00Z

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	I modified the style of the class page to a more user friendly version. Moving the in-game help text to the bottom since it is pretty ugly to read on a webpage and adding the skill list to avoid having to use the category pages which don't lend themselves to being easy to navigate. Plus the skill category pages themselves seem to be misused by being used for both article listings and the skills themselves, redundant. Thoughts?

	~~If this wiki had the wikipedia common.css, I would make the table differently and probably have it look a bit better. I'd like some feedback before I modify any other class pages.~~

Skace at 16:15, 23 May 2008

2008-05-23T16:15:04Z

New page

I modified the style of the class page to a more user friendly version. Moving the in-game help text to the bottom since it is pretty ugly to read on a webpage and adding the skill list to avoid having to use the category pages which don't lend themselves to being easy to navigate. Plus the skill category pages themselves seem to be misused by being used for both article listings and the skills themselves, redundant. Thoughts?

If this wiki had the wikipedia common.css, I would make the table differently and probably have it look a bit better. I'd like some feedback before I modify any other class pages.